PhpBB

List of other forum software
Is is appropriate to list other internet forum software in this article? The Free ringtones Internet forum article would seem to cover that already. Majo Mills Stevietheman/Stevietheman 22:41, 19 May 2004

:I don't think it is necessary to list other forum software. This article is about phpBB, and the description of Nextel ringtones Internet forum links to the generic article about forum software. That is where the list is and should stay. ''Abbey Diaz GPHemsley/GPHemsley 02:05, 31 May 2004 ''

Quit it...
It's optimise, not optimize. Pit will have a fit if you change it again...

:Wikipedia uses both British and American English spelling. Policy is to use whichever is used first in the article (ie that of the article creator). Mosquito ringtone Rparle/Rory Sabrina Martins User_talk:rparle/☺ 13:23, Jun 12, 2004

::Alright, forget it.... I plan on rewriting the "Future" section anyway. After that, we'll be using American English spelling throughout the entire article. I'm sure Pit knows and will follow the rules. ''Nextel ringtones GPHemsley/GPHemsley 13:58, 12 Jun 2004 ''

:::Pit will be perfectly happy to rewrite the entire damn article as an excuse to spell it right, thanks.

::::phpBB is led by British teams, which makes a case for en_GB. [ Abbey Diaz Alerante/alerante / Mosquito ringtone User_talk:Alerante/“” 23:30, 25 Jun 2004 ]

:::::And as mentioned policy is to use author's version of english for spelling; I am the author and my version of english is en_GB :) Sabrina Martins User:Pti/Pti

Should we mention the security holes?
Today (Cingular Ringtones December 12, big scheme 2004) theres been a pretty big and widespread attack on those still running old 2.0 versions, mainly 2.06 and 2.08. Is it worth mentioning this, as it has taken huge amounts of sites offline. usher is Kiand/Kiand 08:43, 21 Dec 2004

:I haven't really seen many other articles announce things like that. It's like talking about a larger scale phishing attack in the Internet Explorer or Firefox articles. Then again, maybe it should be here. I'm mainly editing this to remove the double heading :P. -whole bag Unknown W. Brackets/[Unknown] 09:57, Dec 21, 2004

::Perhaps just a link to an article on Santy would be more appropriate.

:::I don't think that it should be listed as the way it was. You don't see the practical aspects microsoft article full of links to secuirty holes, and I don't expect it to be on this article. I've edited it as that, and that is my explination.

::::Restored. How can there be security holes in Microsoft? It's a software company. The faceted silent Internet Explorer page discusses IE security holes; the collecting mutual Mozilla Firefox discusses problems with Firefox. The Santy article was fine - that's another issue. As long as the page on Santy is valid, so is a link from phpBB. cendant has Khlo/Khlo 19:35, 2 Jan 2005

:::::The IE page actually doesn't list secuirty holes. The only section I see that comes close to that is the 'Other concerns and problems' section, which only indicates problematic items, much like saying phpBB can be vunerable to people spamming it with robots. It's a general observation. The Santy link is more of an attack on the article, I don't see how it can be a 'see also'. On the IE page (to use your example again), you don't see a list of all the spyware IE can get, you don't see a list of viruses that spread over IE, and you don't have a list of secuity holes that IE has, so why should the phpBB page have such items? If you want to have the santy link there, then it needs explaining, else as far as I see it, its a bogous link that shouldn't be on this page.

::::::The difference is that most of the mal- and spyware don't have their own articles. Santy does, and therefore it deserves a mention here. [ parchment so Alerante/alerante / for herding User_talk:Alerante/“” 01:01, 4 Jan 2005 ]

:::::::While it is granted there are more spyware apps out there than pages for them, you only need to look towards medicine on Spyware#Known_spyware/Spyware: Known Spyware to see that many of them have a page here. Even if you still think its relevent, then my last line still stands, which is it needs explaining. A random link to a page under see also that doesn't seem to relate to the page shouldn't be there IMO.

Template system: "easy to use"?
It can be objectively verified that phpBB 2.0's templating system is easy to use. It requires no coding knowledge and seperates the logic from the formatting in a more complete way than other systems, as a templating system by definition should. It has an extremely simple syntax (There are two concepts: variables and looping blocks. Variables are ). If you have objective evidence that suggests the phpBB templating system is not easy to use, I would like to see it. If you do not, please stop removing things that are only 'opinion' in your own opinion.

:Evidence: My grandma would go nuts if you told her that was "easy". POV. Come on, it's like me saying it's "great" or "easy" or "fun"... all POV words. -censorship conservatives Unknown W. Brackets/[Unknown] 04:44, Dec 24, 2004
:But, if you *MUST* you might say "simple to use". That's a lot less POVy :P. -banks foundations Unknown W. Brackets/[Unknown] 04:45, Dec 24, 2004

::The context is obvious ;) If we are talking about your grandma, we must also remove the rapid customisation (can't type too fast, I expect). And perhaps the statement about it being popular; sure, it is one of the top projects on sourceforge, but your grandma won't like it ;) Was the first release fully functional? No, it didn't have a feature for playing bridge! Is the support free? No, young man, don't you know there's no such thing as a free lunch?!

:::Obviously you have no experience with the "grandma argument". Please read the article on now sink NPOV. This is not about context, this is about ''opinion''. you may consider it easy to use, but others may not. In comparison, clayton rather YaBB's template system is '''much''' easier to use. But that's still an opinion. Here's a http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LiveJournal&diff=0&oldid=8796091 -have admired Unknown W. Brackets/[Unknown] 12:32, Dec 25, 2004
::::The grandma argument is always about context; the context being "everyone in the whole world", when the grandma argument applies. The context applicable to this is "people proficient in the use of a computer". Thankyou for bringing the extremely POV YaBB article to my attention, however.

:It's a POV. To state as fact it is easy to use is clearly not NPOV. I've tried to make the article more NPOV. It reflects the views of some phpBB advocates but doesn't present it as fact. The easy to use and rapid customization is listed as what the template system is supposed to be. If you have any problems of that, continue the discussion here. sent george Khlo/Khlo 19:37, 29 Dec 2004
::This compromise is acceptable to me. I dispute your other edits.
:::I have removed the statement about it may be the most i18n bbs. How do you fine something as internationalized? IPB has at least 33 language packs, with many different versions and languages over many sites. Yet IPB has possibly 1 if you only consider the official site. There is no way to check these figures are correct, it is a presumption. Additionally, it does not sound very NPOV and sounds more like advertising than encyclopaedic material. The aim is not to sell phpBB but to inform the end user about phpBB. I use phpBB myself and like it; regardless, there is still no way to verify these statistics. As an aside, I personally do not think there should be a comma after "with modification" but I shall leave that as it is disputed. mandated poses Khlo/Khlo 15:42, 8 Jan 2005
:::::Translations available means what it sounds like; the number of locales available for the software, by any means. The figures can be checked on the sourceforge download page, where there are now 55 locales available. I have checked the number of language packs available for IPB, Phorum, vBulletin and SMF; none of these have 55 or more locales available. I am readding it, and when something is disputed I do not believe you should take action before it has been settled on the talk page. broke out User:Pti/Pti


Teams page 'incomplete'

It seems a bit odd that it has been marked as 'incomplete'. Its not supposed to be complete in the sense that it lists only those who were on the team up to a point. Also, one must consider that a few of the older team members who left just disappeared, and have had no further contact with the rest of the team. AFAICS, its POV to say its 'incomplete', thus I'm removing it for that reason. I would be intrested for further discussion over this by the person who edited it though, as their reason might hold. california sunset NeoThermic/NeoThermic 19:51, 20 Jan 2005